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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 23:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think, as an organization, you&#039;re right.  In fact, I personally find it more important to protect the rights of animals more associated with &quot;Nature&quot; than our pets.  I personally don&#039;t find much merit in the practice of keeping animals as pets, and therefore ESPECIALLY don&#039;t see the reasoning behind protecting pets and killing agricultural animals.  If I&#039;m going to eat my dog, can I humanely slaughter it?

When I was child, I went to synagogue.  Very few of the kids kept kosher... what kid can resist pepperoni??  But the temple didn&#039;t serve pepperoni pizza!!!  Because it&#039;s not kosher, and it&#039;s a Jewish temple.  Doesn&#039;t that just make sense??  I think the choice is left at the door once you CHOOSE that you support the SPCA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, as an organization, you&#8217;re right.  In fact, I personally find it more important to protect the rights of animals more associated with &#8220;Nature&#8221; than our pets.  I personally don&#8217;t find much merit in the practice of keeping animals as pets, and therefore ESPECIALLY don&#8217;t see the reasoning behind protecting pets and killing agricultural animals.  If I&#8217;m going to eat my dog, can I humanely slaughter it?</p>
<p>When I was child, I went to synagogue.  Very few of the kids kept kosher&#8230; what kid can resist pepperoni??  But the temple didn&#8217;t serve pepperoni pizza!!!  Because it&#8217;s not kosher, and it&#8217;s a Jewish temple.  Doesn&#8217;t that just make sense??  I think the choice is left at the door once you CHOOSE that you support the SPCA.</p>
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		<title>By: J Jacobson</title>
		<link>http://www.govegan.net/?p=2616&#038;cpage=1#comment-6095</link>
		<dc:creator>J Jacobson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EXCELLENT JOB SARAH!

You are standing up for truth and what is right.

@ALL who claim that choice is essential and that we should not force people to stop killing animals, just think back to when people said the same thing about slavery or suppression of women.  Do you really think that people should always have a choice, regardless of the pain and suffering it causes?  Sometimes we do need to evolve and change our ways as a species.  So evolve already!

More specifically, think about what the SPCA stands for, Society for Prevention of Cruelty to ANIMALS.  The word is ANIMALS!  Can you imagine an organization called &quot;The Abolition of Child Explotation Society&quot;, but they would go out and certify child labor factories for their higher standards in working conditions for the children (ie: they will be provided with shoes and brief moments of natural light).  Let alone serve dead children for meals at their event??  Wake up people!

We certainly CAN and WILL stand up for what is right.  Causing unnecessary cruelty and suffering to animals is unacceptable, especially when there are plentiful alternatives readily available.

GO VEGAN &#124; STOP ANIMAL CRUELTY &#124; EVOLVE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EXCELLENT JOB SARAH!</p>
<p>You are standing up for truth and what is right.</p>
<p>@ALL who claim that choice is essential and that we should not force people to stop killing animals, just think back to when people said the same thing about slavery or suppression of women.  Do you really think that people should always have a choice, regardless of the pain and suffering it causes?  Sometimes we do need to evolve and change our ways as a species.  So evolve already!</p>
<p>More specifically, think about what the SPCA stands for, Society for Prevention of Cruelty to ANIMALS.  The word is ANIMALS!  Can you imagine an organization called &#8220;The Abolition of Child Explotation Society&#8221;, but they would go out and certify child labor factories for their higher standards in working conditions for the children (ie: they will be provided with shoes and brief moments of natural light).  Let alone serve dead children for meals at their event??  Wake up people!</p>
<p>We certainly CAN and WILL stand up for what is right.  Causing unnecessary cruelty and suffering to animals is unacceptable, especially when there are plentiful alternatives readily available.</p>
<p>GO VEGAN | STOP ANIMAL CRUELTY | EVOLVE</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to go Sarah...I&#039;ve noticed that many companion animal shelters are becoming more truly animal-friendly, but some have a ways to go. It takes a lot of courage to speak up the way you did, and I&#039;m so happy you&#039;re standing up for the animals who are often forgotten in our society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to go Sarah&#8230;I&#8217;ve noticed that many companion animal shelters are becoming more truly animal-friendly, but some have a ways to go. It takes a lot of courage to speak up the way you did, and I&#8217;m so happy you&#8217;re standing up for the animals who are often forgotten in our society.</p>
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		<title>By: Go Vegan.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The BC-SPCA responds to my open letter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Go Vegan.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The BC-SPCA responds to my open letter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for your stance on not serving animals we applaud you sticking up for not killing animals to serve at a saving animal function. Since you know Penny Stone and her so called wonderful hard work, could you please ask her why she killed a sweet, gentle dog called Ricky. The SPCA emailed Ricky&#039;s owner three times, intercepting her ad  on&quot; Used Victoria&quot; when she was trying  to find him a new home, due to her financial state, the family was told to go see Penny Stone because she would find him a new home, when Ricky was brought in he was taken out of the back of the mothers car and put in a van and killed immediately by Elk Lake Vet. Ricky was three years old, healthy, loved and no one is accountable for Penny&#039;s actions, apparently it was &quot;A COMEDY OF ERRORS &quot; that killed Ricky, that is what the family was told by an employee.Why would anyone drive their cherished dog to the SPCA and insist that he be killed. The SPCA are not a no kill shelter and they do not assess dogs to see if they are dangerous or if they can readopt them. They bully and  threaten lawsuits and kill sweet gentle dogs then go on the news to say how they save Rabbits at Thetis Lake, and save dogs from high kill shelters in the States, what a bunch of rubbish. How does this continually go on without someone speaking up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for your stance on not serving animals we applaud you sticking up for not killing animals to serve at a saving animal function. Since you know Penny Stone and her so called wonderful hard work, could you please ask her why she killed a sweet, gentle dog called Ricky. The SPCA emailed Ricky&#8217;s owner three times, intercepting her ad  on&#8221; Used Victoria&#8221; when she was trying  to find him a new home, due to her financial state, the family was told to go see Penny Stone because she would find him a new home, when Ricky was brought in he was taken out of the back of the mothers car and put in a van and killed immediately by Elk Lake Vet. Ricky was three years old, healthy, loved and no one is accountable for Penny&#8217;s actions, apparently it was &#8220;A COMEDY OF ERRORS &#8221; that killed Ricky, that is what the family was told by an employee.Why would anyone drive their cherished dog to the SPCA and insist that he be killed. The SPCA are not a no kill shelter and they do not assess dogs to see if they are dangerous or if they can readopt them. They bully and  threaten lawsuits and kill sweet gentle dogs then go on the news to say how they save Rabbits at Thetis Lake, and save dogs from high kill shelters in the States, what a bunch of rubbish. How does this continually go on without someone speaking up?</p>
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		<title>By: Lifeforce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lifeforce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lifeorce was formed in 1981 as an ecology organization to respect the rights of all life. In 1983 we started Animal Rights Day in Vancouver - the first in the world. At our 1983 symposium we served only vegan meals and the Four Seasons did a great menu.It is truly hypocritical to save some species while eating others.Why is taking other orgs so long to realize this cruelty? 

See our web site for campaigns against the dairy industry, factory farming ...

www.lifeforcefoundation.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lifeorce was formed in 1981 as an ecology organization to respect the rights of all life. In 1983 we started Animal Rights Day in Vancouver &#8211; the first in the world. At our 1983 symposium we served only vegan meals and the Four Seasons did a great menu.It is truly hypocritical to save some species while eating others.Why is taking other orgs so long to realize this cruelty? </p>
<p>See our web site for campaigns against the dairy industry, factory farming &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lifeforcefoundation.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.lifeforcefoundation.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frances</title>
		<link>http://www.govegan.net/?p=2616&#038;cpage=1#comment-5577</link>
		<dc:creator>Frances</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Clinton You&#039;re right. Choice is essential. However I don&#039;t understand how serving a vegan meal at an event that is promoting prevention of cruelty to animals is anti-choice. For starters, menus for charity events are always announced in advance. Therefore if people do not wish to eat a vegan meal at said event, they can CHOOSE not to go. That is choice at its best. You can also spin it the other way, if they serve meat at the function and several of the guests are vegetarian or vegan, are they not allowed the CHOICE of having a meal that doesn&#039;t contain meat? Another double standard.

I don&#039;t understand how you cannot grasp the basic concept of what is being said in Sarah&#039;s letter. She is not asking people to neglect their health (By the way I have been vegan for over 2 years now and am in perfect health, as confirmed by blood tests done only last week) she is asking the management of the SPCA to make an informed decision and stop the double standards that they are promoting at these events.

You make sweeping generalisations in your post which are completely unrelated to the topic and also baseless. You go off on tangents about how you know so many animal lovers who are actually neglecting their animals and about how everybody on the planet cannot survive on a vegan diet unless they live in the tropics (which had me scratching my head a tad). It sounds like perhaps you have some insecurities to work out before you start posting such nonsensical comments on a public forum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Clinton You&#8217;re right. Choice is essential. However I don&#8217;t understand how serving a vegan meal at an event that is promoting prevention of cruelty to animals is anti-choice. For starters, menus for charity events are always announced in advance. Therefore if people do not wish to eat a vegan meal at said event, they can CHOOSE not to go. That is choice at its best. You can also spin it the other way, if they serve meat at the function and several of the guests are vegetarian or vegan, are they not allowed the CHOICE of having a meal that doesn&#8217;t contain meat? Another double standard.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand how you cannot grasp the basic concept of what is being said in Sarah&#8217;s letter. She is not asking people to neglect their health (By the way I have been vegan for over 2 years now and am in perfect health, as confirmed by blood tests done only last week) she is asking the management of the SPCA to make an informed decision and stop the double standards that they are promoting at these events.</p>
<p>You make sweeping generalisations in your post which are completely unrelated to the topic and also baseless. You go off on tangents about how you know so many animal lovers who are actually neglecting their animals and about how everybody on the planet cannot survive on a vegan diet unless they live in the tropics (which had me scratching my head a tad). It sounds like perhaps you have some insecurities to work out before you start posting such nonsensical comments on a public forum.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see this being discussed.  We had a similar discussion about the Green Party food policy, along the lines of sustainability.  

Pretty much the same result - unpopular minority opinion seen as pressuring the rest although I believe they have served wonderful vegan-only food at a few gatherings to much acclaim.

And it always niggles to hear people quoting Weston-Price.  Talk about a history of bias!  

There are several doctors today (McDougall, Ornish, Fuhrman, Klaper) healing people from all backgrounds with a vegan diet.  Not one of them reports even an exceptional patient who suffers from the lack of animals, much less the sweeping population percentages that objectors seem to fear.  And the proof is in the peer-reviewed studies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see this being discussed.  We had a similar discussion about the Green Party food policy, along the lines of sustainability.  </p>
<p>Pretty much the same result &#8211; unpopular minority opinion seen as pressuring the rest although I believe they have served wonderful vegan-only food at a few gatherings to much acclaim.</p>
<p>And it always niggles to hear people quoting Weston-Price.  Talk about a history of bias!  </p>
<p>There are several doctors today (McDougall, Ornish, Fuhrman, Klaper) healing people from all backgrounds with a vegan diet.  Not one of them reports even an exceptional patient who suffers from the lack of animals, much less the sweeping population percentages that objectors seem to fear.  And the proof is in the peer-reviewed studies.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YAY Sarah! What a well-written letter. 

I think most non-vegan people have a difficult time viewing farm animals as no different from pets. One you pet, the other you eat! I know I grew up loving my dog AND eating hamburgers, never really seeing the connection. 

But once you see it, it&#039;s so obvious. 

Hopefully, thanks to you, this organization will now see that perpetuating cruelty to cows, pigs, chickens, turkeys, ducks, and rabbits is no different from supporting cruelty to dogs and cats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YAY Sarah! What a well-written letter. </p>
<p>I think most non-vegan people have a difficult time viewing farm animals as no different from pets. One you pet, the other you eat! I know I grew up loving my dog AND eating hamburgers, never really seeing the connection. </p>
<p>But once you see it, it&#8217;s so obvious. </p>
<p>Hopefully, thanks to you, this organization will now see that perpetuating cruelty to cows, pigs, chickens, turkeys, ducks, and rabbits is no different from supporting cruelty to dogs and cats.</p>
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		<title>By: Niki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good on you Sarah!  And go Dave and Holly! 

I hope you get a reply. I also wrote to RSPCA in Australia recently for a fundraising day they were running which involved cupcakes.  Their website, which didn&#039;t offer a vegan cupcake recipe instead offered decoration and topping ideas which included gelatine, dairy, eggs etc, which I found completely hypocritical.

My letter sadly went unanswered which is disgusting considering I donate to a number of charities and I donate to many of RSPCA&#039;s campaigns. It&#039;s enough to make me want to withdraw any funding from their activities - they are simply using &#039;cute&#039; animals to raise money to spend on other types of animal cruelty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good on you Sarah!  And go Dave and Holly! </p>
<p>I hope you get a reply. I also wrote to RSPCA in Australia recently for a fundraising day they were running which involved cupcakes.  Their website, which didn&#8217;t offer a vegan cupcake recipe instead offered decoration and topping ideas which included gelatine, dairy, eggs etc, which I found completely hypocritical.</p>
<p>My letter sadly went unanswered which is disgusting considering I donate to a number of charities and I donate to many of RSPCA&#8217;s campaigns. It&#8217;s enough to make me want to withdraw any funding from their activities &#8211; they are simply using &#8216;cute&#8217; animals to raise money to spend on other types of animal cruelty.</p>
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